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"BESET by digital piracy and increasing customer reluctance to payfor CDs, the music industry is fighting back with its latest technology - black vinyl records.
 
Music labels and high street retailers are busy turning back the industry's clock to a time not only before internet song downloads, but also before CDs or even audio cassettes. The irony is that the vinyl revolution is being led by teenage consumers who are prepared to stand in line for the latest 45 rpm single or 331/3rpm LP (long-
playing record) in much the same way that their parents, or in some cases their grandparents, did.
 
According to Rob Campkin, the head of Music at Virgin Megastores, vinyl is now outselling CDs when it comes to the latest records.
 
"Up to 70% of sales of new releases are vinyl. The fans of popular new rock bands like Arctic Monkeys and The Raconteurs prefer vinyl to CD," said Campkin. "When the Raconteurs' latest single was released, 80% of high-street sales were for seven-inch vinyl and only 20% were for CDs."
 
"We are not just talking about vinyl singles but also about albums - the format is just continuing to grow," said HMV spokesman Gennaro Castaldo.
 
The trend is born out by figures from record industry body, the British Phonographic Industry (BPI). According to the BPI's findings, vinyl records are a technology that has come back from the brink of extinction to take the industry by storm. Between 2001 and 2005, annual sales of vinyl single in the UK rose sixfold to over 1m,
accounting for 14.7% of all physical singles sales in 2005, up from 12.2% in 2004. The industry expects vinyl figures for the current year to be even more dramatic.
 
The vinyl revolution has caught many of the big music labels napping. It is the smaller independent labels who have been able to snap up successful new bands. This has left big players in the industry, such as EMI, scratching their heads and wondering why teenagers are embracing a technology the music industry had dismissed as outdated and obsolete before most of them were born.
 
Record labels like EMI are finding themselves losing the next generation of music stars to upstart labels like Domino Records, which handles hit bands Franz Ferdinand and Arctic Monkeys, and Rough Trade, which handles The Strokes and rock music's latest human disaster area, Pete Doherty.
 
According to Virgin's Campkin, the smaller independents have one key advantage over the larger labels as far as the artists are concerned.
 
"The independent labels will release material on vinyl where the more established are more reluctant to do this," said Campkin.
 
One reason for this situation is believed to be that the mainstream music industry has forsaken vinyl to the extent that there is now no big vinyl processing plant in the UK. This means that the discs must be pressed offshore and that a large number of new vinyl recordings are limited editions that quickly become collectors' items. This type of operation, where limited pressings are carried out by factories in other countries, is better suited to the independent labels than to the more established players.
 
Virgin also reports a trend where fans will buy the CD when it is released and will wait weeks or months until the vinyl release before buying that as well. Some vinyl albums, such as the last White Stripes release, continue to sell consistently for months.
 
In addition to the new releases, retailers Virgin and HMV report a growing demand for classic pop records on vinyl from artists such as The Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan. Market research has shown that these new releases of older material are often being bought by younger customers, just as older "baby boomers" are increasingly augmenting their collections with LPs from modern artists such as the
White Stripes.
 
"The original baby boomers, who are now in their fifties, are not only buying classic pop records by the Beatles or the Stones but are also adding new artists from the independent labels to their collections,' said HMV's Castaldo.
 
According to Virgin's Campkin, one major reason for the renewed popularity of vinyl is its collectability, which operates on two levels. On one level, collectability means seeing the value of a 99 pence (E1.43, $1.73) single CD increases 50-fold in a single year.
 
"The first 7-inch single release from Arctic Monkeys, which came out a year ago, is now selling on eBay for £50-£60," said Campkin.
 
He added that the second sort of collectability is the desire to own a record collection of one's own.
 
"Vinyl is far more iconic in this respect," said Campkin. "The record sleeve offers the consumer art work as well as information about the performers and song lyrics."
 
Some well-known music figures believe that the industry did itself irreparable damage when it switched to CDs 20 years ago.
 
Roger Daltrey, lead singer of 1960s supergroup The Who, said in a recent interview: "The record labels sold everybody a white elephant with the CD. They pushed it over as being this wonderful musical formula that you can play forever that sounds better and is scratch proof. None of it was true; CDs do not sound as good as vinyl and they last for five minutes."
 
Like other artists of his generation, Daltrey believes that pop music generally sounds better on vinyl as so much of it was originally developed to be played on the vinyl format rather than on digital equipment. Vinyl enthusiasts say that the bass and vocals on most songs cannot be accurately reproduced on a compressed digital format and that the music inevitably loses something by being reduced to what is essentially just a binary computer code.
 
Daltrey also believes that record sleeves are a key part of the attraction of vinyl.
 
"We threw away an art form that was so much more than the record," said Daltrey. "The size of the cover was perfect for art work. Sometimes the covers were more important than the music. The more fingerprints you got on it, the more it was a part of you. With a CD, you start with a nice plastic box and end with a scratched plastic
box; it has no character whatsoever."
 
Campkin said: "I think the record sleeve is paramount. With a vinyl album you feel you have spent £10-£15 on something tangible that will last."
 
Daltrey also believes that it was the switch to CDs that ultimately led to the music labels' horrendous problems with digital music piracy.
 
"The problem with the CD is that if you can copy what is on it for nothing, as you now can, why would you want to buy it?"
 
Music retailers such as Virgin and HMV are also coming to the conclusion that consumers want a return to a more tangible format. They fear that the logical conclusion to the evolution of digital music is a world without high street music retailers where fans do everything over the internet and download all their music via a PC.
 
Virgin plans to opens a new 25,000 square-foot Virgin Megastore in Manchester's Arndale shopping centre that it hopes will transform the way consumers perceive record stores. More space than ever will be dedicated to vinyl records and customers will have access to turntable and listening booths in the same way that teenagers did in the 1950s and 1960s. The store will also offer "chill-out" areas with armchairs and
sofas where customers can relax and listen to music.
 
Virgin plans to use the same formula in other stores in the hope that it will be able to persuade teenagers to see the megastores as social venues as much as music shops. The company hopes that the strategy will enable it to offer consumers enough added value to head off growing competition from cut-price supermarket CD offers and internet download services.
 
The music retailers do not believe that vinyl will ever entirely replace digital music formats. Instead, they predict that the same fans will often subscribe to both formats by downloading music for their MP3 players and PCs but will also wait for the vinyl release to add that to their permanent record collections.
 
Virgin believes that digital music downloads may not be as big a phenomenon as some the industry anticipates and will account for no more than 10% of the overall market by 2009 and that the appeal of vinyl will continue to grow to shoppers who want to take home something tangible and lasting.
 
Those industry players which do not become part of the vinyl revolution will see their market share decline as smaller nimbler players snap up the new artists and establish brand loyalty with an increasingly vinyl-hungry record buying public."

Musta kulta strikes back!!!

Olen kyllä itsekin havainnut vinyylien ostoinnon kaveripiirissä. Itsekin olen vinyyleitä alkanut haalimaan kirppareilta ja levykaupastakin.
 
Eikö jotain juttua ollut, että c-kasetit ovat jenkeissä taas nousemassa?

Onnellinen nuoruus palaa !! Kohta tulee c-kasetitkin back !!

Mahtavata

Itse pidän vinyyleistä paljon enemmän kuin cd-levyistä... ihan jo sen kansitaiteen vuoksi. Vinyyleissä sen merkitys korostui ja levy oli monesti muutakin kuin musiikkia... se oli myös kuvataidetta parhaimmillaan. Vinyyliä ostaessa tulee aina sellainen fiilis että "tekee sijoituksen" kun taas CD on sellaista tusinarusinaa.

c-kasetit
 
Mä just suunnittelin tekeväni soololevyn, joka tuliski c-kasetilla, eli se ei olis levy ollenkaan! ehhehe
 
Mut hieno uutinen, tosin ei niin odottamatonta kun kaikki muukin retroilu alkaa mennä jo vakavaks :)

Vinyylissä on paljon helpompi päästä kappaleisiin sisään, kun on ne viisi biisiä per puoli. Pitää nähdä vaivaa kuullakseen seuraavat viisi biisiä. Winampilla valitaan vaan soittolista, kuunnellaan kerran ja jätetään siihen.

CD tai vinyyli? Mulle on ihan sama. Enenevässä määrin on kieltämättä tullut noita vinyyleitäkin osteltua, mutta lähinnä sen takia, että kyseisistä julkaisuista ei CD-versioita ole edes painettu.

Se parhaiten nauraa joka viimeksi nauraa. Monet kaverit vaihtoivat levynsä cd:ksi hirveällä vaivalla ja rahalla. Itse en koskaan edes harkinnut moista ja olen ostanut koko ajan tasaisesti vinyyliä aina kun olen haettuja löytänyt...perhana, pitäisiköhän sittenkin jättää ajatus Beatles-kokoelman hankkimisesta myös cd:nä? Tosin kyllä esim. Whon suhteen ei cd-versioiden hoitaminen kaduta, kun niissä on niin paljon ekstramatskua.

Kerran jo jossain vaiheessa 90-lukua menin vinyylikokoelmani kiikuttamaan osittain divariin. Never gonna happen again. En tue CD:ta muutakin autosoittimessa ja pakonsanelemana (=vinyyliversiota ei saatavilla).

Toivottavasti vinyylin hintakin lähtisi hieman laskuun ja tarjonnat paranisivat myös täällä suomen maalla.

Toivottavasti vinyylin hintakin lähtisi hieman laskuun ja tarjonnat paranisi, myös täällä suomen maalla.
 
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http://www.vinyyliklubi.com/
 
Tarkoitin lähinnä paremmilla valikoimilla levyjen julkaisua uudestaan myös vinyyliformaatissa, kun ovat monet painokset jo myyty loppuun. Uusien levyjen tarjonta vinyylin kohdalla on auttamattomasti cd:tä huonompi ja hinnat ovat korkeampia.

Toivottavasti vinyylin hintakin lähtisi hieman laskuun ja tarjonnat paranisivat myös täällä suomen maalla.
 
Olen itse melkeinpä tottunut maksamaan vinyylistä pienempää hintaa kuin cd:stä. Tuplavinyylit on sitten yleensä suunnilleen samoissa hinnoissa kuin vastaava cd - elleivät jopa vähän korkeammat.

Toivottavasti vinyylin hintakin lähtisi hieman laskuun ja tarjonnat paranisivat myös täällä suomen maalla.
 
Oon kanssa samaa mieltä. On tästä ennenkin keskusteltu, mutta tosi asia on kuitenkin se, että vinyylit ovat selvästi hinnakkaampia uutena ja ne eivä tipahda ollenkaan tähän midprice kategoriaan. Toivottavasti tulisivat enemmän takaisin niin saattaisi sekin tapahtua ja sitten todellakin ostaisin ennemmin vinyylinä. Nyt se vain ei ole oikein mahdollista jo tuon hinnan takia.

Oon kanssa samaa mieltä. On tästä ennenkin keskusteltu, mutta tosi asia on kuitenkin se, että vinyylit ovat selvästi hinnakkaampia uutena ja ne eivä tipahda ollenkaan tähän midprice kategoriaan. Toivottavasti tulisivat enemmän takaisin niin saattaisi sekin tapahtua ja sitten todellakin ostaisin ennemmin vinyylinä. Nyt se vain ei ole oikein mahdollista jo tuon hinnan takia.
 
Jaa, mun mielestä kun vinyyli on halvempaa kuin CD uutena, varsinkin tuolla reissue-puolella. Ja tarjontaakin tuntuu olevan yllin kyllin. En osaa?

CD:t kieltoon laissa.

http://www.vinyyliklubi.com/
 
Kalliit hinnat ja kehno valikoima.
 
Kyllähän vinyyleitä aina mielummin ostelee kuin cd:itä. Myykää joku mulle kunnon teknari.
En kyllä ymmärrä mikä vastavallankumous tämä on. Indiehipsterimoppitukkateinit alkaneet ostella vinyyleitä vai? Kyllähän noita on koko ajan julkaistu ja myyty. Niissä medioissa joita seuraan, vinyyli on huomattavasti korkeammalla jalustalla, myös julkaisijan ja ostajan vinkkelistä.
 
Onko vinyylimuovi muuten kierrätettävissä nykyään?
 
C-kasetista... C-kasetit ovat tehneet uutta tuloaan myös suomessa, esim. Lal Lal Lalin toimesta; lafka on julkaissut muutamalta bändiltä levyjä ainoastaan ko. formaatissa. Olisin ostanut ne jo, mutta minulla ei ole mitään millä soittaa niitä, ja kyllähän kasetit ovat aika roskaa.